Seth Gruber, the Christian Nationalist host of The Seth Gruber Show, spoke in his August 25 broadcast about a news story involving “California sodomites who bought a baby through surrogacy” but then allegedly told the birth mother to “kill it” (per their surrogacy agreement) after the unborn fetus was diagnosed with hypoplastic left heart syndrome, a severe heart condition that often requires surgeries, a heart transplant, and lifelong medication.
Despite Gruber’s claim that the “sodomites” are “a couple of gay dudes,” the couple in question, Omar Ahmed and Nausheen Gilkar, are actually a heterosexual man and woman. CNN reported that the incident has become a national flashpoint for anti-abortion and anti-surrogacy activists, especially since the surrogate, McKenna West, claimed that Ahmed and Gilkar refused to commit to getting the newborn life-saving care after its birth; Ahmed and Gilkar deny this claim while West is fighting them for legal custody of the newborn child.
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Gruber said the incident occurred because society has “rebelled against God’s created order,” and claimed that the newborn child was originally going to be raised in a “household without any mother whatsoever, something that he called “insanity.”
“Two gay dudes can’t procreate… it doesn’t work. So they can’t have babies. Nature prohibits them and God has prohibited them,” Gruber said. “But in the Leftist progressive mindset, they think nature is a bigot… nature is homophobic. ‘Mother Gaia hates the gays. She doesn’t want them to have kids,’ this becomes the perspective.”
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Gruber has previously said that “gays” should be banned from “buying children” because it is no different from the institution of slavery in the U.S. It’s unclear whether he was referring at the time to adoption, surrogacy, or both.
In a May 28 post on the social platform X, Gruber wrote, “Gays should be banned from buying children. We fought a war to end the practice of buying and selling people and now the gays are bringing it back in the name of ‘progress.’ Evil then. Evil now.”
in a follow-up post he wrote, “Those who buy babies would have bought blacks. Both are justified based on the ‘desires’ & alleged ‘rights’ of rich elites. But in every case, innocent people are harmed and treated as property. Today’s gay’s were yesterday’s plantation owners. Make buying humans illegal again!”
Family-building through adoption or surrogacy differs from enslavement for a variety of reasons, including the fact that children have legal rights and protections that enslaved people did not have and parents have obligations to provide for and protect their children.
Researchers estimate that about 35,000 same‑sex couples have adopted children, and about 4,000 surrogate births occur in the U.S. each year. Though surrogacy remains controversial, it is nonetheless used by many couples worldwide who otherwise face difficulties having children.
Gruber isn’t the only anti-LGBTQ+ figure who has opposed surrogacy. Catholic Pope Francis referred to surrogacy as “despicable” and to gestational surrogates as a “uterus for rent” — he also called for a universal ban on the practice. Transphobic Daily Wire broadcasters Michael Knowles and Matt Walsh have referred to the practice as “gravely evil” and a “mad scientist horror,” respectively.
But anti-LGBTQ+ influencers like Gruber, Knowles, and Walsh aren’t arguing against surrogacy in good faith since all three have framed their arguments particularly around gay people. In Gruber’s case, he has even gone so far as to connect same-sex marriage to pedophilia.
In a July 2025 X post, Gruber wrote, “’Gay marriage’ is fundamentally anti-human. It’s not procreative.” He didn’t explain whether he felt the same way about heterosexual couples who are unable to procreate.
“For lesbians, it dehumanizes men by treating them as mere sperm banks,” he continued. “For gay dudes, it dehumanizes women by treating them as walking rent-a-wombs.”
“For the pedos, ‘gay marriage’ was a HUGE gift because it redefined parenthood from 2 opposite sex couples who created the child to literally anyone, so now pedos can buy sperm & egg, rent a womb, and go home with a baby that they intend to sexually abuse,” he claimed.
Gruber is completely wrong in his assertion. The Supreme Court’s 2015 legalization of same-sex marriage didn’t “redefine” parenthood — it merely said that two consenting adults of the same sex can wed because there is no compelling government interest in preventing them from doing so. Furthermore, before 2015, individuals of any sex could try and conceive children through in sperm and egg donors, in vitro fertilization, or surrogates.
Bigots like Gruber tried to (and still do) oppose same-sex marriage by claiming that it would lead to increases in child sexual assault. A major evangelical figure also predicted that marriage equality would cause fathers to marry their daughters. There’s no evidence to suggest that either incest or pedophilia increased as a result of legalized same-sex marriage.
In his other posts, Gruber claims that same-sex marriage is “Satanic,” that LGBTQ+-inclusive childrens’ books are “pornographic,” and calls himself a proud Christian Nationalist. Rhetoric like his encourages violence against LGBTQ+ people and their allies, many of whom seek to protect children from genuine harm.
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